The reloader has the choice of 90-110 grain soft point, hollow point, and full metal jacket style bullets. As for the 10mm auto (.400 inch bullet diameter), velocities with Federal 180 grain Hydra-Shok ammo from a five inch barrel are 1069 fps and 1220 fps from a 16 inch barrel. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select, or press tab to cycle through suggested products based on autocomplete results. Still, the 9mm Luger cartridge is no big game hunting round and no medium game hunting round, either. The .30-30 is immensely popular throughout the U.S, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Muzzle Energy and Terminal Ballistics, .357 & .30 Carbine. At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs. Given normal accuracy of 3" @ 100, we're talking a possible group roughly 14-16" @ 450 yds (3"/100 x 4.5). All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I would guess that any M1 Carbine capable of 2-3" groups at 100 yds could easily be held high at 450, and do as well. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. of energy at 200 yards. A Federal 115 grain JHP round achieves a muzzle velocity of 1188 fps out of a six inch barrel and 1295 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. Muzzle energy is 977 ft. lbs. Texan by birth, in Colorado cause I hate humidity, http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx, http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi. It is a significant upgrade over the Hi-Point 995 genre of cheap 9mm semi-autos, not nearly as pricey as the Beretta CX4 Storm and it is a fraction of the price of the excellent Kriss Vector. The .30-30 cartridge is now more appropriately appreciated for close range hunting of medium game while the lever action rifles that house the .30-30 are still considered by many hunters, to be the ultimate in portability. All rights reserved. At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs. The .30 Carbine By Chuck Hawks . Joined: Oct 10, 2006 Messages: 11,739 Location: North Idaho. As autoloading pistol cartridge propellants have fast burn rates, there is not as much velocity increase with a 9mm pistol cartridge carbine as there would be with a rifle cartridge, or even a magnum revolver cartridge carbine. This time, we’re looking at the ballistics of the .30 Carbine cartridge, including gel testing and a hard barrier penetration test. Sighted-in three inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on at 200 yards, still hitting with 1315 ft. lbs. Details in the video below, or keep scrolling to read the full transcript. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by woof, Aug 7, 2011. Copyright 2005, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. As to the round’s ballistic performance… Fired from the Blackhawk’s 7.5-inch barrel, the .30 Carbine round loses several hundred feet per second of muzzle velocity (and hence quite a bit of energy) compared to when it’s fired from the Carbine — as one might expect when one more-than-halves the barrel length. Anyone who uses our data owes him a debt of gratitude. A 240 grain Federal Hydra-Shok load from a .44 Remington Magnum (.429 inch bullet diameter) carbine nets 1619 fps from a 16 inch barrel, putting the 10mm to shame. From a carbine length rifle barrel .30 Carbine factory loads drive 110 grain RN bullets at a muzzle velocity of 1,990 fps. The shooter has more contact points, offering a more stable shooting platform than non-shoulder fired alternatives. Perhaps this is why the FBI and the U.S. Military both have stuck with, or have gone back to, the 9x19mm. at 100 yards. Ballistics by the Inch shows there often is little velocity gain. 10mm means more noise, less capacity, more recoil and a higher cost per shot. The notion of a carbine is attributed to the cavalry. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > ArfinGreebly Moderator Emeritus. Its ballistics in a rifle may not be overwhelming, but neither is the recoil. of energy. Handgun cartridge performance in carbines, compared to rifle cartridges, is anything but amazing, except to say they are amazingly weak. The .357 fares much better out of a rifle, for a 125 grain Federal JHP round hits 2015 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. The wildcat was picked up by Winchester in 1984 and released in their Model 94 Lever action rifle but with a longer than usual 24” barrel. The Speer 110 grain Varminter JHP bullet has a BC of .136, and a SD of .166 (not impressive, but better than the 55 grain .224 inch bullet). Well, it is time once again to delve into the wonderful world of the M1 Carbine. Remington and Federal offer 110 grain jacketed soft point bullets in their factory loads, while Winchester loads a 110 grain jacketed open point bullet. Recoil energy is very light at 3.8 ft. lbs. For hunting medium game, Winchester ballistics credit their .357 Magnum 158 grain JHP and JSP bullets with a muzzle velocity of 1830 fps from a 20 inch carbine barrel. Ballistics by the Inch shows there often is little velocity gain. A Federal 115 grain JHP round achieves a muzzle velocity of 1188 fps out of a six inch barrel and 1295 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. 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Developed by wildcatter Ken Waters for lever action rifles, the 7-30 Waters is based on the 30-30 Winchester necked down to 7mm, designed as an attempt to produce superior external ballistics to the parent cartridge. This is still extremely slow for a carbine, for a .22 Winchester Magnum rimfire carbine with a 16 inch barrel shooting 45 grain Hornady FlexTip ammo hits 1702 fps. For the regular shooter, pistol ammo is often cheaper than rifle cartridges. Carbine length black powder rifles were consider low performance in terms of velocity and less accurate, due to the shorter sighting plane. Don't kid yourself, no handgun caliber carbine is an ideal deer slayer. One of the hits of 2018 is the new Ruger PC9 Carbine in 9x19mm. Here are some .30 Carbine specifications of interest to reloaders: bullet diameter .308", maximum COL 1.680", maximum case length 1.290", SAAMI MAP 40,000 cup. From a carbine length rifle barrel .30 Carbine factory loads drive 110 grain RN bullets at a muzzle velocity of 1,990 fps. It will hit about 8" high at 100 yards, and 3" shy of 12 FEET LOW @450 yards. After all, 9mm is a .35 caliber round (.0355 inch diameter bullet), nearly the same diameter as the .357 Magnum (0.357 inch diameter bullet). 2015 fps with a 125 grain bullet (.357 Magnum) versus 1295 fps from a 115 grain 9x19mm bullet is a huge difference. Note: A full length article about the .30 Carbine can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. Just did a ballistic chart for the .30 carbine: 1900fps @ muzzle, sighted at 200 yard zero. It is shorter and lighter than a full length rifle, about the length of a curved sword or saber, that can be carried in a scabbard on horseback. According to the Speer Reloading Manual No. This is still extremely slow for a carbine, for a .22 Winchester Magnum rimfire carbine with a 16 inch barrel shooting 45 grain Hornady FlexTip ammo hits 1702 fps. The remaining energy of these loads is 715 ft. lbs.